Aliens Need Not Apply by Noel Carroll


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Post April 20, 2012, 08:48:57 PM

Aliens Need Not Apply by Noel Carroll

Here's another one that suffers from preachiness. And, by the third or fourth paragraph, I had a pretty good idea of what was coming, so the ending was no surprise.

This one's got a big plot hole, too: what keeps these beings stuck to a planet once they've evolved into creatures of pure energy -- and, further, why do they even want to? Hell, if I could do that, I'd be out exploring the cosmos -- at the speed of light!

Sorry, Noel, to me, this one fell short.
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Post April 21, 2012, 01:09:02 AM

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Mebbe their energy patterns require a planetary magnetic field to remain coherent... without it, they would just 'spread themselves upon the winds', like Apollo in "Who Mourns for Adonais?" (ST:TOS). (I'm trying to remember if Mars HAS a strong magnetic field. Not every solid astronomical body does...)
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Post April 21, 2012, 11:41:53 AM

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Robert_Moriyama wrote:...like Apollo in "Who Mourns for Adonais?" (ST:TOS).

BTW, that particular episode is airing tonight at 9 pm on METV, Cable 225 in my area at 9 pm. And wasn't the female crew member he wanted for his mate, actress Leslie Parrish especially beautiful in that one. She also appeared in a few other series during the late 60's, namely Hogan's Heroes and The Big Valley and then she dropped out of show business.
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Post April 21, 2012, 12:04:33 PM

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Robert_Moriyama wrote:Mebbe their energy patterns require a planetary magnetic field to remain coherent... without it, they would just 'spread themselves upon the winds', like Apollo in "Who Mourns for Adonais?" (ST:TOS). (I'm trying to remember if Mars HAS a strong magnetic field. Not every solid astronomical body does...)

The Martian magnetic field is practically nil due to its core being frozen. It allows a lot of radiation in. That's largely why Mars is a dead planet in the first place.

Their little plot to poison us wouldn't work anyway. Extraplanetary samples are typically handled as though they are active disease vectors, but that's mostly to prevent the samples from being contaminated more than for our own safety. I'm pretty sure that an artifact would be treated with a great deal of extra care.
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Post April 25, 2012, 03:56:56 PM

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Some of the dialog in this reminded me of TH White's Once and Future King - where the ants are demonizing the enemy in a transparently hypocritical manner. I wikied the passage, but all I found was Cliff notes for students (darn kids!) But, if I remember correctly, it was like: They have something we don't have; if we had something they wanted, they would take it; therefore it is okay for us to take their something, before we get something and they take ours.
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This also reminds me of Gilligan Island’s episode 40: Smile you’re on Mars Camera.

I thought it got pretty preachy towards the middle. Yeah, we get it, humans are soiling and spoiling the earth. We get it.

I thought the thinking that Earth is able to reach Mars, but the Martians can’t do the same was interesting. The e-people on Mars couldn't leave their planet's surface because they have no means of projection or propulsion. It makes sense to me. It's like a friend once told me: An Amish way of life is a good way to live, but it won't get you to the moon.

Of course the gift inside the idol is as old as the Greek-Trojan war.
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Post May 01, 2012, 02:41:35 PM

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There are some serious flaws in this story.

First, let’s talk about the Great Disease. A pathogen that kills its host is actually an anomaly. Think about it. What evolutionary advantage does a microbe have in killing its host? I could see how a disease might be so virulent that it wipes out the majority of living creatures. However, I refuse to accept that it would continue to evolve to be lethal. That’s just bad science. The pathogen would evolve to coexist with its host, like the herpes virus or the retrovirus in other animals. That’s a better evolutionary strategy.

Second, they stated that Mars also sent out probes 100 million years ago. If they were that sophisticated, they would know that life on Earth existed. They probably could have deduced it just by using a telescope. They’re not going to see a red planet full of dirt. They’d see green and oceans. They’d know that there is life.

Third, telling vs. showing. This one I debated on, since this is meant to be a dialogue driven story. However, the dialogue wasn’t interesting enough for me to retain interest. It takes skill to pull that off and, unfortunately, I didn’t find it here.

Fourth, putting a pathogen within the idol... what are the odds this would work? With the pathogen even be compatible with our DNA? Would they think we’d dissect the idol in an open air area? They should know that we’d be just as cognizant of potential contamination and would take safeguards against it.

The actual writing itself wasn’t bad. I thought the pacing and word choice to be fine, so I think the authors have some basic skill. However, the plot holes were far too large to ignore.
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